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because i remember full well in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. he came across as slightly impatient. he's the president of the united states, why am i debating this guy? and that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama has to be careful. that he doesn't come across irritable or impatient. >> or running out the clock. >> perform well from a mannerism standpoint. if he doesn't, this race goes a one-point race. we're all sitting around, what happened. >> donna brazile, matt dowd brings up the mannerisms. you were in the al gore camp, everyone thought that he cleaned george bush's clock, in that debate, but on mannerisms he ended up losing. >> george, many of us remember the split screen. al gore was sitting there, rolling his eyes, looking at george bush and basically, he started to sigh. >> did president obama have that vulnerability. >> look, i think governor romney speaks in perfect sound bites. i attended many of those republican debates. one thing that he's very good at is tu
because i remember full well in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. he came across as slightly impatient. he's the president of the united states, why am i debating this guy? and that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama has to be careful. that he doesn't come across irritable or impatient. >> or running out the clock. >> perform well from a mannerism standpoint. if he doesn't, this race...
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but this is very unusual and i saw george w. bush 43 was fair. the republican committee hosted it websites. hundreds and hundreds of conservative groups were there. again, that is all fine and well. this company, which is highly, highly partisan also overtime required in contracts that i think probably should not have gone to such a partisan company. in the me just say two. one was if you're in the white house to meet your e-mail according to the presidential records are public documents and they're supposed to be hosted on whitehouse.gov. the rose made sure his e-mails were hosted on smart tack in any of his staffers, other people in the white house also had their e-mails there. so when rove was investigated for the valerie plain unfair and again in the u.s. attorney scandal, said my 22 million e-mails were deleted and these are all government documents and they have never been found. so that was one thing he seems to have gotten away with. another thing was in 2004, smart tag played a central role in the presidential election. the secretary of
but this is very unusual and i saw george w. bush 43 was fair. the republican committee hosted it websites. hundreds and hundreds of conservative groups were there. again, that is all fine and well. this company, which is highly, highly partisan also overtime required in contracts that i think probably should not have gone to such a partisan company. in the me just say two. one was if you're in the white house to meet your e-mail according to the presidential records are public documents and...
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how about george bush, senior? george bush jr. that's george w. bush, of course, or president obama? we will take a look at history's greatest debate moments. [ male ] sponges take your mark. ♪ [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... ♪ [ crowd cheering ] ...to clean 2x more greasy dishes. dawn does more. so it's not a chore. i knew it'd be tough on our retirement savings, especially...
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bush conspiracy theory of course was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the answers through an ear piece but rather by bringing the illegal crib sheet on to the debate stage with him. you see, previous debate rules have set out very clearly that, quote, no props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate and yet have a look at this damning evidence. this is at the very beginning of the debate on wednesday night and as you'll be able to see clearly here what is that in your pocket? mr. romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of
bush conspiracy theory of course was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the...
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he once called former president george w. bush "a donkey, a coward and an immoral person." anchor jorge ramos from our partner network univision is in venezuela tonight for the election, and i spoke with jorge just moments ago here. jorge, great to have you with us again tonight and president chavez finding himself in his closest race yet to hold on to power. >> reporter: absolutely. for the first time in 13 years president hugo chavez might lose the presidency. he hasn't been able to control inflation, crime, corruption, and for the first time all the opposition parties got together behind one candidate, henrique capriles, a formidable 40-year-old former governor. >> we al know that president chavez almost made it political sport to become friends with our own rivals in america but he also controls a significant amount of oil that comes to the united states. >> reporter: there is a lot at stake for the united states here in venezuela. on a personal level, we have to remember that president hugo chavez had insulted both president barack obama and president bush, but we have
he once called former president george w. bush "a donkey, a coward and an immoral person." anchor jorge ramos from our partner network univision is in venezuela tonight for the election, and i spoke with jorge just moments ago here. jorge, great to have you with us again tonight and president chavez finding himself in his closest race yet to hold on to power. >> reporter: absolutely. for the first time in 13 years president hugo chavez might lose the presidency. he hasn't been...
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pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the president's best night. i give it to governor romney on style points. but on substance, and that's what matters, the president wins and should. >> you're a friend of the president's. you know him better than almost anybody in the political world, certainly. what went wrong, do you think? what was the thinking? was there something we didn't know about? people suggesting he may have been given bad news just to explain the sort of strangely morose mood he seemed to be in. >> i really don't know. i wasn't in denver. i know whenever i go to denver it takes me a little while to adjust to the altitude. i don't know whether that was -- i'm purely speculating, piers. i just don't know. i do think that the president was right on the substance, but it would have been great to see more energy. i think the general public and certainly many of the pundits have said so, and i'l
pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the president's best night. i give it to governor romney on style points. but on substance, and that's what matters, the president wins and should. >> you're a friend of the president's. you know him better than almost anybody in the political world, certainly. what went wrong, do you think? what was the thinking? was there something we didn't know...
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you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with george w. bush. he thought bush was completely unworthy and had no business running for president and you could tell. he would roll his eyes. you could see that. i was playing bush. this is a worry for president obama. he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that
you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with...
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what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two more debates to do. i think you'll see a different barack obama in two weeks. >> joe is going to be with us next week for the vice presidential debate, giving us analysis then. >> thanks so much. >>> you know, it would take hours for a full debate fact check, so we're just going to look at two, courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested that the united states will save money by winding down th
what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't...
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>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for which is dornlgs i pray for our troops in harp's way, i pray for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is c
>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final...
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not as few as george w. bush, but very few. >> he can be a little brittle. chris: let's go back to romney's must-do list. as we said, he's prepping to take a knick out of the president's credibility. >> the president tends to, how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents, i've looked at prior debates. chris: at the same time romney has to fill in the gaps for his own proposals. he has to avoid this, when his 1994 debate opponent, ted kennedy, secured him for the same vagueness he's been accused of this year. >> what is the cost of your program? >> i don't have a cost. >> you don't have a cost? >> no, i'm sorry. i don't have the -- >> that's interest. >> i don't have the congressional budget office -- >> what will be the cost in terms of the tax incentives that you provide? what will the impact of that on the budget? >> the impact -- i do not know the specific number. >> so you don't know the cost. >> i think it's a wonderful idea to take it through piece by piece and -- >> that's what you have to do with legislation. that's
not as few as george w. bush, but very few. >> he can be a little brittle. chris: let's go back to romney's must-do list. as we said, he's prepping to take a knick out of the president's credibility. >> the president tends to, how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents, i've looked at prior debates. chris: at the same time romney has to fill in the gaps for his own proposals. he has to avoid this, when his 1994 debate opponent, ted kennedy,...
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. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez outreach strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaigns. we met in his san antonio home. how do they fall into this pit fall of appearing? >> talking one way to a particular group of individuals, and then going to the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces the candidate to look out there and now know he is talking and delivering a message that has to bring these two groups of people together. >> reporter: television ads offer a snapshot to president obama and mitt romney's strategy in courting voters. the obama campaign is using latino celebrities targeting specific issues like education, immigration and even the appointment of sonya sote omier. mitt romney is using family. he talks about american values and bipartisanship. the chief marketing officer of cultural strategy, he sees obama and romney targeting specific groups in the latino community. romney chasing the more conservative cuban american vote, obama focusing on puerto rican and mexican american votes. he says to get these votes the mess
. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez outreach strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaigns. we met in his san antonio home. how do they fall into this pit fall of appearing? >> talking one way to a particular group of individuals, and then going to the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces the candidate to look out there and now know he is talking and delivering a message that has to bring these two groups of people together. >>...
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the landscape has shifted big time since george w. bush won the state by nine points in 2000 and by five in 2004. john kerry pulled plans for tv ads a month before the election when it was clear the state was out of reach. colorado picked democrats for president. just twice since 1950. and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a few things. an influx of highly educated west coast transplants. the state is younger and more diverse. more hispanic. the population is up by 20% since 2000 to more than 5 million. latinos now account for 21% of the population. president obama's strategy is repeating what he did in 2008. his margin of victory was 142,000 votes. 46,000 more votes than kerry got in 2004. they'll also vote on swing accounts that use to be republican. obama put on six counties that bush carried in 2004. including jefferson county. arapahoe. as jefferson county goes,
the landscape has shifted big time since george w. bush won the state by nine points in 2000 and by five in 2004. john kerry pulled plans for tv ads a month before the election when it was clear the state was out of reach. colorado picked democrats for president. just twice since 1950. and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a...
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he sounded a hell of a lot more like george w. bush in terms of his world view. good versus evil and other things. two specific things that highlight that. one, he called for a middle east nation building czar. that's what he wants you as taxpayers to spend your money on, to do nation building. second, he built more naval ships, ships that the defense department and generals don't even want. so i think a lot of americans have got to ask, yeah, we've got a lead in the world but what in the heck are we doing, proposing that won't make america stronger and safer in the long run and those are the only two specifics that i can see that were really different from what president obama is actually doing. >> now, brian, you've used the word disarray about his foreign policy. what do you mean by that? >> well, he doesn't actually have clear positions on most issues. i think it's reflective of the american party today. you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party fol
he sounded a hell of a lot more like george w. bush in terms of his world view. good versus evil and other things. two specific things that highlight that. one, he called for a middle east nation building czar. that's what he wants you as taxpayers to spend your money on, to do nation building. second, he built more naval ships, ships that the defense department and generals don't even want. so i think a lot of americans have got to ask, yeah, we've got a lead in the world but what in the heck...
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even george w. bush said coming out of katrina, the remarks he made actually echoed obama's word for word in terms of highlighting racial bias in what was happening on the ground of new orleans post- hurricane katrina. that is actually not incorrect. what he was saying is not incorrect. but characterizing it as him being a racist, they have done nothing to characterize him as treating audiences differently, nor has he played the race card on the campaign. that is an important distinction. >> were president obama was saying to that crowd was designed to inspire feelings of racial animosity and what he was saying was factually incorrect. this is why he is either a liar or an incompetent. the senate had just waved this two weeks prior. megyn: that's what i'm saying, -- >> under george bush, they denied them the same consideration was given to manhattan after september 11 and florida after hurricane andrew. it was wrong. it was factually incorrect. he either knew that or he didn't know that but should h
even george w. bush said coming out of katrina, the remarks he made actually echoed obama's word for word in terms of highlighting racial bias in what was happening on the ground of new orleans post- hurricane katrina. that is actually not incorrect. what he was saying is not incorrect. but characterizing it as him being a racist, they have done nothing to characterize him as treating audiences differently, nor has he played the race card on the campaign. that is an important distinction....
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i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image f
i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in...
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george w. bush is the incumbent president. his challenger is this guy, massachusetts senator john kerry. remember at the democratic convention this year when john kerry gave the bang-up speech about mitt romney learning everything he knew about russia by watching rocky 4, and his overseas trip actually being a blooper reel and all that stuff? this this great barn burner of a very funny speech by john kerry. everybody said, afterwards, where was that john kerry when he was the guy running for president in 2004? well, that john kerry actually did show up in 2004 when he was running for president. at least he showed up for the first debate against the incumbent president that year, and in that first debate against the incumbent president, challenger john kerry cleaned the president's clock. >> i made a mistake in how i talk about the war, but the president made a mistake in invading iraq. which is worse? >> president bush and senator kerry were hard at it again today, campaigning across battleground states, continuing the spirite
george w. bush is the incumbent president. his challenger is this guy, massachusetts senator john kerry. remember at the democratic convention this year when john kerry gave the bang-up speech about mitt romney learning everything he knew about russia by watching rocky 4, and his overseas trip actually being a blooper reel and all that stuff? this this great barn burner of a very funny speech by john kerry. everybody said, afterwards, where was that john kerry when he was the guy running for...
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. >> like when democrats called george w. bush stupid either. you can't be stupid and get this job. >> it's a lazy argument. chris: for mitt romney, he tries to overcome the stiffness in the debate. maybe his team played this for him hours before. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard, and i think you know i opposed the death penalty during all of my life. i don't see any evidence it's a deterrent and i think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. chris: speaking of time travel, andrea, you were sitting on the panel that year, that very year. jim lehrer's book on the debate includes the panelists, including you discussed bernie's question in the greenroom and there was concern among your group about asking that question. what was the feeling then? >> the feeling was, you saw three women, ann compton, margaret warner, myself and bernie. bernie had one question to ask as the moderator and we each got two and the forma
. >> like when democrats called george w. bush stupid either. you can't be stupid and get this job. >> it's a lazy argument. chris: for mitt romney, he tries to overcome the stiffness in the debate. maybe his team played this for him hours before. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard, and i think you know i opposed the death penalty during all of my life. i don't see...
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if you look at national debt under president obammasm this is a guy who said that your boss, george w. bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for taking a credit card in the name of our quids kids and grandkids and borrowing from the bank of china. $6 trillion by one four-year term, more than george bush in 8 years. >> at least, we were growing the economy, while bush was in office. we are not growing the economy -- we are growing the debt much faster than the economy. think about this when president obama came into office, the public debt --ont the total debt, secured in the form of a bond and sold, was equal to 40% of gbr dp. because of the stimulus bill and the increase in the federal budget, it was 54% of gdp. by the end of 2010, 62%, by the end of last year, 70% of gdp and by the end of this year, only because republicans control the house and have put some of the brakes on the spending, it will be 72% of gdp. everything's costing more. and why? because as a country, we are spending money we do not have. what that causes, that causes to eat away at purchasing power of the dollar.
if you look at national debt under president obammasm this is a guy who said that your boss, george w. bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for taking a credit card in the name of our quids kids and grandkids and borrowing from the bank of china. $6 trillion by one four-year term, more than george bush in 8 years. >> at least, we were growing the economy, while bush was in office. we are not growing the economy -- we are growing the debt much faster than the economy. think about this...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable. >> romney? >> no, we're getting a little bit closer to the election. people are paying more attention to the election. when you see the polls and try to understand why the numbers are so different between romney and obama, you have to understand the great majority feel that democrats represent their interests and care about their issues more than republicans. and what has hurt republicans is that very negative rhetoric on the immigration issue. that has hurt republ
it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the...
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remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door bells, making phone calls. and i think there's going to be a lot of surprises. >> but ed rendell, a lot of republicans like ralph like to go back to the reagan days. the difference is, as i have discussed this week with some pollsters, he was 20 points up after the convention. we had seen his ability to create wide swings. we haven't seen that in this race. it's much more polarized. right? >> no question. and ralph is right to some extent about the polls. but, look, we all know that the challenger gets a big bump in the first debate. no question about it. just appearing on
remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door...